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John88

Does emotion/anger cause fatigue?

Hello all, first time poster on here but I do pop in to read from time to time. Diagnosed last year after my second relapse in 18 months. Coping fine after the initial shock and seem to be going well on the Tecfidera but every now and again I have a horrible day fatigue wise. Just so tired, heavy, lethargic and generally feeling like crap. I'm having one of those days today and also getting some tingling which is quite rare. It seems like the last couple of bouts of fatigue have come after I've got myself worked up/stressed out over something not related to my MS. What I want to know is can your emotional frame of mind, or even anger, manifest itself into physical symptoms like fatigue? Has anybody got any experience of this? Thanks in advance.

Stumbler

@Stumbler

Hi @john88 and welcome. I think that you'll find that the majority of members can associate relapses with a period of intense stress. I know I can. But, also, it's Saturday, so a day of recovery after the working week. You could be over-tired too. Anyway, here's a bit of reading about stress, https://www.mstrust.org.uk/a-z/stress

Teddy1

@Teddy1

@John88....My pain management Psychologist says 100% yes....calm is always the best way (says the MS mood swing crazed woman?)....I was feeling pain ++++ and aching more than ever when I went to see her last week, she discussed how our emotions are affected by our MS...have a look, at this below....but I think it is a prolonged stress overload on your brain...you are possibly doing too much. PACE!...cognitively and physically....try to eliminate as much stress as poss from your life....if something or someone continually causes you stress, it's time to take action....or your MS will suffer in all ways x http://ms.newlifeoutlook.com/coping-with-ms-and-anger/

Teddy1

@Teddy1

I studied Emotion, fear and stress as an element of my degree....it's a serious subject...we HAVE to listen to our bodies and what they are trying to tell, us....if we ignore the signs, disease can occur

John88

@John88

Thanks everyone. Confirmed my suspicions. I suppose tiredness could also be a factor. I finished a night shift earlier after feeling rotten for most of it, starting around the time I started getting stressed about something at home! Now I'm in bed, been up all night and can't sleep even though I'm fatigued as hell. What a ba**ard of a disease this is sometimes though. The physical implications mean that worrying about being able to work is unavoidable when you've got a young family to provide for. And the worry wipes you out. I'm pretty laid back and accepting of the MS but how can you go through life stress free? I can imagine getting stressed just about the possibility of being stressed and that then having a knock on effect. Mental!

Stumbler

@Stumbler

@john88 , we have to find a way to live with stress and to manage it effectively. This requires us to re-assess the values we put on aspects of our life, to see what is really important and that which is not. I can see from the picture you've just posted, which shows what is important in your life. Work is a stressful environment. Yes, we need to do a good job, to retain our position, but should we worry about it. Our employers won't worry too much if they wreck our health, they'll just replace us. Management of stress is difficult, but just ask yourself if the reason for the stress is really important to you. I refer to this quote, which reflects this :- "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference" Reinhold Niebuhr

John88

@John88

@Stumbler That's a heavy philosophical quote for me, mate. Haha! Have you got anything from Ian Brown or Noel Gallagher? Much more suited to a man of my intellect. I notice you've got SPMS and are 20 years past diagnosis. If you don't mind me asking how are you at the moment and did it start off as RR?

Stumbler

@Stumbler

@john88 , I was diagnosed RRMS in '97, although an episode of footdrop back in '85 was my first recognisable symptom. And, subjectively diagnosed SPMS in 2010. How am I at the moment? Housebound is the answer. I've recently been floored by urine infections, which are still bugging me. Before the infections, I used to be out and about. Two sticks for short (very short) distances and a wheelchair for longer. But, this allowed me to get out swimming three times a week and attend a Pilates class and a yoga class. And do a bit of fishing. I'm still optimistic that I'll get over this housebound phase - ever the optimist! Don't over-think that philosophy. If something is stressing you, just ask yourself if you can really do anything about it. Then either change it or accept it and stop stressing. :wink:

John88

@John88

@Stumbler Thanks for the kind words and for sharing, mate. I'm sure you'll be casting off again soon.

Stumbler

@Stumbler

@john88 , I must cast "out" when I go fishing, but, you cast "off" when knitting! Ha Ha! Just have to remain positive......

Teddy1

@Teddy1

@Stumbler......?that's it....keep that positive mind rolling......my husband said he will take you fishing all day, every day (give me some peace here....lol)x

Stumbler

@Stumbler

@teddy1 , that's very considerate of your hubby. However, with all the travelling, not much fishing will get done. :wink:

Teddy1

@Teddy1

1 h 39 min (77.7 mi) via M4.....?

Stumbler

@Stumbler

You're not stalking me, are you, @teddy1 ? :shock: :wink: although I make it 3 hrs 20 via M4...........

Teddy1

@Teddy1

Shaddup silly ! I've got MS and Fibro fog...I'll just get my coat?

Stumbler

@Stumbler

Aw, don't put your coat on and leave, @teddy1 :cry: