Last reply 2 weeks ago
Nazis and MS – human experiments

Hi,
I don’t know if anyone is aware, but today marks the start of the UK Disability Month. On the back of this, I have just posted a piece on the Barts MS blog: “Useless Lives: The Dark Story of MS and the Nazis.” The article came out of a visit I recently made to Auschwitz – which made me wonder about the Nazis treatment of people with MS. Warning – some of the content is disturbing.

https://multiple-sclerosis-research.org/2019/11/useless-lives-the-dark-story-of-ms-and-the-nazis/#comment-69380

It’s not a nice subject – but I think we should not forget…

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highlander
2 weeks ago

@longboat
I didn’t realize that you posted that on the blog.
I was just about to repost it here.
Very well written.


lucylu45
2 weeks ago

Interesting read, never knew about any of this


longboat
2 weeks ago

Thanks … I didn’t realise either until I started digging. I am working on a second piece – But find I have to take breaks – it is pretty awful what they did to anyone with a hint of disability.


nutshell88
2 weeks ago

reminds me of thr news had seen in the start of second Iraq war
interviewer asked how are uou gonna control Arabs they are big nation they replied they have many believes tripes accents we will bring up their differences and ise a weapon that will make our enemy disabled by nee weapons
no offense
just creative chaos.


guinness
2 weeks ago

@longboat you never read about this in the history books , people should never forget what happened at Auschwitz, and this will be news to everyone.


itsmewithms
2 weeks ago

@guinness so very right. Because it didn’t happen in our backyard there are some people that dismiss it or think that it couldn’t happen where they are. It could and there are many examples, throughout history, where it has. I live in the US in the midwest on land that was once the home for many tribes of Native Americans. How they were treated, and are being treated, is atrocious. Some of my ancestors were Huguenots and any were killed there with the survivors coming to the US. Throughout history, on every continent, there are dark times.

But the brutality of the Holocaust was definitely a low in humanity. When my daughter’s high school went to Washington DC a few years ago for their spring band trip we visited the museum there and I stopped to take a picture of a plague with a quote from Genl Eisenhower with a statement from April 15, 1945: “The things I saw beggar description…the visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were…overpowering…I made the visit deliberately in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to”propaganda”. It is unthinkable that this could happen but there are factions still in denial of how bad it really was.

I’ll watch this one today – thanks – coincidentally I just started watching the Nova segment on violence https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/video/the-violence-paradox/ Not really “feel good” movies for the season but important to acknowledge. Regular TV is very disrupted here due to the impeachment coverage…yet another low for US Politics…sigh


stumbler
2 weeks ago

Whilst this in itself is indefensible, history is littered with man’s total disrespect for fellow man. And, it continues to this day……


seanachai
2 weeks ago

Its really interesting, but the history of MS without the extremes also…

But lets focus energy on whats next in removing the pain from peoples lives..

…the past won’t cure MS…. even it sells newspapers or propels careers..


acceptance
2 weeks ago

@seanchai and @stumblr I agree

It’s a horror of a disease without dwelling on or giving airtime to things like this – yuk

Focusing on finding a fcuking cure would be helpful, – articles like this just increase misery and hopelessness; well it did me anyway…


seanachai
2 weeks ago

hardcore investigative journalists… where are they these days?… Washington Post maybe, but they are too busy with a full in-tray of Trump shite….

All that aside, I think I want a pet Snail


lisa_morghan
2 weeks ago

Unfortunately i do believe this did happen its so so sad but even to today people who got horrible diease back thenwas worse they dont know how to fix it !!! So gross doctors science doctors would and still do experiments because they werent going to get better !!! My sister older than me she got MS when she was early 20s they used my sister as a a guinea pig !!! Seriously shes now 64 and can NOT get herself out of bed by herself ……. im sorry but this is True


acceptance
2 weeks ago

@seanchai Indeed..indeed!

I just think we have enough to dwell on, without considering evil neurologists who tortured 80 years ago and got away with it…and there’s still no cure …especially when the ‘experts’ get distracted so easily…

@lisa_morghan … I’m sorry about your sister chick – the dmd recommended to me 25 years ago killed so many people, it was subsequently withdrawn….

On a plus, I can highly recommend having a snail for a pet…they are soo chilled and undemanding, so soothing to watch and their single minded determination to find each other (and a lettuce leaf ) is admirable ….✨🐌♥️✨

https://share.icloud.com/photos/0rRBczF_u0PI0Is91D1iHCWpw#Wirral


doubleo7hud
2 weeks ago

Think it’s still going on now. I do feel like a walking Lab rat, even seem to be growing extra fur.

Bloody pip is just as bad it’s cleverly designed so we all drop or give up before we have chance to get to the interview.


doubleo7hud
2 weeks ago

PS while I’m getting it off me chest that phookin music when you have to ring them up. makes me want to do a MSderbaters for justice climb up number 10 dressed as Batman. (Not that I’d be able to climb that far I’d get up the 1st step 😂)


nutshell88
2 weeks ago

@acceptance
maybe our medical industry fda has has its own corrupted allow drugs but must be with side effects then they remember us lster in the future with grief


sarah_graham
2 weeks ago

WOW I must read this. How did you find this?

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