Last reply 2 months ago
Injections – New Treatment Question

I started Glatiramer Acetate (Copaxone) injections last Friday. I had a nurse with me for the first one and I did my first one on my own today. The one with the nurse was a breeze (my stomach) and I barley felt it. I thought “oh this is going to be easy, no problem” and I had a tiny reaction for an hour after, but the actual shot itself wasn’t bad at all. The one today was really painful (on my thigh). I had a sore thigh most of the day and I won’t be surprised if I wake up with a bruise. I am trying to decide before my next injection if I should start self injecting instead of using the auto-injector.

Do people find they prefer to self inject? I used to give myself allergy shots in my arms in college, but for some reason this makes me a tiny bit more nervous. The nurse said only remove the air bubbles if I am self injecting and to go at a 45 degree angle. I am not sure how deep to put the needle into my skin. Are there any “how to” videos online like there are for the auto-injectors?

@emma_madamn_degrimes, I was looking at your last response to me and you mentioned that you preferred to self inject. Did you only do your thighs and stomach since they are the only ones you can reach self injecting? Or did you have someone help you with the other locations? How do you know how far to stick the needle in before injecting the medicine? Any additional help with this is appreciated.

Thanks!

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stumbler
2 months ago

@rayrayjean , have a look at this webpage, I think it will answer all your questions and has a video tutorial :-

https://www.copaxone.com/injection-assistance/injecting-copaxone-pre-filled-syringe


dominics
2 months ago

@rayrayjean When I used Glatiramer Acetate (Copaxone) some 10y ago I had carried to that from Beta Interferon (neutralising antibodies generated by BI are considered to dull its immunomodulatory effects after a while, making it rather pointless to take) I had been self injecting for a while.

Much simpler than the autoinjectors. Like @stumbler says, there are masses of videos now. There is a degree of trial and error. I assume you are injecting once a day subcutaneously. I’m sure you will have been told to rotate your sites. Because it was more frequently than the BI I started to have to be more rigid in my trip around my favourite injection sites in order to reduce the injection site reactions.

See how you get on. I did belly fat roll which is larger than I’d like but did give plenty of fat to pop the needle into.

If you don’t get on with all the injection kerfuffle then at least these days there are other meds, oral and infused to take.


rayrayjean
2 months ago

Thanks, @stumbler, the video is helpful. I only have to do the injections 3 times a week and hoping as time goes on it will get easier. Some of the site info is slightly different than what the nurse told me to do so I guess I will need to figure out which way is better lol. @dominics, unfortunately for now copaxone is my only option…only drug that they say is safe while trying to conceive. Hopefully in a year or so I will be able to switch to something else.


dominics
2 months ago

I wondered if conception may figure.

Best of luck.


crunchyfriends
2 months ago

@rayrayjean I started on Copaxone 2 months ago – some places are much sorer than others I have to admit. I don’t like the idea of the auto-injector, think the self-administered injections are easier, faster and probably less painful? I definitely find when injecting my thighs the reaction is stronger – around the injection site I will have a bump for a few days after which can be itchy. I currently inject my stomach, thighs and hips.

Good luck with the conceiving, exciting times 🙂


rayrayjean
2 months ago

@crunchyfriends, do you do the hip injections yourself? Why do you avoid the arms? Just wondering. Also, the nurse that came out said to get rid of the air bubble before self injecting and the video training says don’t. I didn’t today, but wondering what others do?

I gave myself an injection in my other thigh this morning and while I was a tad shaky it was SO much better than the auto injector in the other thigh. Hoping I rarely if ever need to use the auto injector.

Thanks, all!


crunchyfriends
2 months ago

@rayrayjean yep I do them myself- I stand with my two feet together then twist the upper part of my body, not the easiest place to inject but do-able.

The Copaxone nurse who visited me to train me told me not to do the arms – she said it’s far too sore so I just went with that.

She told me not to worry about the air bubble in the needle so I don’t do anything. Literally pop off the lid and pop it straight in at 90 degree angle.

Sometimes I can get a bit shaky doing it myself but it’s over and done with in a few seconds -i’m afraid of the autoinjector haha!


rayrayjean
2 months ago

@crunchyfriends, okay thanks. My nurse also said if self injecting to pinch skin and insert at 45 degree angle. Not sure why. He did also recommend avoiding the arms.

I was a bit shaky this morning, but overall I think I prefer it to the auto injector. I guess I could try the hip location, I was debating having my husband do it, but that makes me nervous too lol. We’ll see.

Thank you!!


dmt727
2 months ago

Hi @rayrayjean,
I can relate to what you are saying 🙁 I too recently started on Copaxone initially 3 x a week but now daily. Interesting I was not told about not doing backs of arms ? I find them the most uncomfortable 😣
However I feel that it is becoming easier 🙂

I mostly did legs and stomach cause the arms would be very unpleasant and if you look at the auto pen you’ll see the needle only comes out a little bit. I usually use that as a depth guide. I swear by the manual method. Those pens are half the pain.


rayrayjean
2 months ago

@dmt727, why did they switch you to daily? Sorry you have to do it so often. Hopefully it will get easier for you over time.

@emma_madamn_degrimes, oh so you don’t stick the needle in fully in certain areas even manually? I guess I didn’t think about that. Hmm…I am really struggling with “depth setting” ideas for different areas. I guess overtime I will probably figure this all out.


stumbler
2 months ago

@rayrayjean , you’ll find some advice about needle depth a short way down this webpage :-
 
https://www.copaxone.com/injection-assistance/autoject-2-for-glass-syringe


rayrayjean
2 months ago

Thanks, @stumbler. I think that info is for the autoinjector. I was wondering if I am supposed to adjust the needle depth when self injecting.


stumbler
2 months ago

@rayrayjean , I agree, it is specifically for the Autoinjector. But I’m not sure if you can set a needle depth when manually injecting.

I was just hoping the the information would give you some idea of how far to insert the needle manually.


hope33
2 months ago

Hi rayrayjean when self injecting manually you don’t have to alter anything on the needle. You just inject all the way. It’s not a long needle and very thin. Very easy. I have never autoinjected. I heard it tends to leave more bruises, is more painful and causes more dips in the skin over time. When manually injecting a great tip is to keep your skin well moisturised and soft.


rayrayjean
2 months ago

@hope, okay good to know. I will be better about moisturizing. I didn’t second self injection today and this time in my stomach. It hurt more that the whisper ject into my stomach, but I think I am still trying to figure this all out. Or maybe some days it just hurts a bit more than others. I think I prefer the self injection, but I do wish the little lever for your fingers to grasp was a tiny bit wider. It makes it harder to maneuver.

@stumbler, I appreciate the info. Will still be handy if I do sometimes auto inject.

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