This is going to be a lengthy post , due to the fact that PIP dept took 23 months to eventually award it !
I only WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE who feels that they ‘possibly’ should apply for it ,or feels that need to apply for it .
or if you know someone who SHOULD APPLY .
but please take great care ,in what you write on the application form , because PIP is a language unto itself .
Sadly ,I feel I know PIP language fully now, after having felt like I’ve LIVED it for over 2 yrs.
BUT , the other reason for my post is because I EVENTUALLY WON my case , ONLY through NOT GIVING UP , but PERSISTING way beyond when u first feel so disappointed by their REFUSAL to award , to knowing that THEIR DECISION WAS WRONG .
I BELIEVED that THEY WERE WRONG TO TURN ME DOWN, as has now been accepted by them .
The journey took my stress level as high as it has ever been , because of the enormity of my need of PIP ,and their decisions IMPACT UPON ME , MY LIFE AND MY KIDS LIFE .since my kids ARE affected by a yes or no PIP decision .
If I had not believed in myself and in justice so strongly , I know I could have given up at the 1st refusal from them, but I dislike injustice immensely and it was PERSONAL !!! Isn’t the terminology personal independence payment to provide you with greater independence not less?
Hence why I had to continue ‘ fighting ‘ knowing they were wrong and I was right to continue to the end :-
1st refusal – I had already been briefed to ‘ expect ‘ , yet I actually thought they might give correct decision !
2nd refusal- ( mandatory reconsideration ) , This was now not funny to me , because I then had to WAIT to go to appeal/ tribunal
3rd refusal – 1st tribunal – actually thought they might get it right this time ? But no ,they got it wrong AGAIN.
Then HMCTS ( her majesty’s courts and tribunal service ) , fobbed me off repeatedly with ‘ we have a back log / the judge has your papers … Yet THE JUDGE , couldn’t seem to provide a FULL ‘ statement of reasons ‘ as to why I had been refused PIP
The HMCTS took from Dec 2015 until August 2016 to then acknowledge they were taking too long to provide this necessary full statement of reasons , which was required for me to progress onto the next level ,’ arguing my case on a point of law’ , yet fortunately they decided to ‘SET ASIDE ‘ ( which means ignore/ erase /cancel) the decision that had been made 9months previously …so what now !???
My wonderful welfare rights officer, requested that they award the PIP , but HMCTS chose to make me go to TRIBUNAL AGAIN !
So I just couldn’t even get my head around having to go through it again ( 10mnths after the 1st one ) , but it was the ONLY way to progress it .i told my welfare rights officer , that I had NO CONFIDENCE in them getting it right , due to 3 times being refused it .
She said she would come with me , which was a relief . the tribunal day arrived , we both arrived and sat outside the room waiting to go in, the courts clerk came out , and I provided a few more papers for them to see , 5 minutes later, the clerk came back out and said they have decided to award what you have asked for ! She was referring to a letter the welfare officer had written previously setting out where she believed they should have awarded points .
They awarded 8 for daily living and 12 for mobility , as compared to 4 for both at 1st tribunal.
I was in shock, because by this point I had no HOPE or TRUST in them understanding my many invisible conditions , I cried out of RELEIF not happiness, because the effects of their refusing it had adversely affected me immensely .
It has take a long time to sink in , that I’m not having to fight for it anymore .
But also, last week another judge has now backdated the award to July 2013 ! Which was when I 1st called PIP , which was 14 months after my mobility had changed ( deteriorated suddenly ) overnight .
yet I didn’t actually COMPLETE the PIP FORM until after I Called them a 2nd time in NOVEMBER 2014.
At the winning tribunal , my welfare officer said that they were WRONG AGAIN to not have awarded it to the 2013 date, when atos papers stated VALID CLAIM DATE was 2013 , so it was already on their own papers …
My claim for PIP has been awarded for 5 yrs , that is from July 2013 – July 2018 , which means I have to ENDURE this again NEXT year !
I heard about people’s terrible stories about waiting mnths or up to a year re PIP claim ,Yet not realising my case was even longer was exceeding that.
please DONT FEEL SCARED TO APPLY FOR PIP …
following on from that … I’m about to complete another PIP APPLICATION FORM over the next week ,for someone who has not felt confident to apply for themself again,after having been refused it in 2013 & not believing they would win ,if they appealed .
It’s very personal for me , not just because of my own experiences with PIP, but because it is for my children’s dad, who doesn’t have MS, but a different condition , yet he’s affected in very similar ways to myself/us ( mobility / fatigue /need to sleep in day/balance & more )
I see his NEED for help ,as I see his condition deteriorating and see him struggle , without the support he needs .
After him learning of my pip success ,he is feeling more confident to apply ,as long as I help him complete the form .
He actually left his papers and form at my home & I asked him , was he hoping I would complete it for him and he said YES please !
Sorry it’s long post , but I hope it may help some one else get the support they need & good luck !