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PIP Assessment

Anyone recently gone through a pip assesments, I have one next Thursday and I’m so stressed over it and I don’t know what to expect, I would appreciate any advice please

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stumbler
1 year ago

@frankielideo , the Benefits and Work website, http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/ , will explain the full process to you.

Preparation is key.


daniel2025
1 year ago

Atos are the company that DWP use for assessments be as honest as you can don’t hold back tell them everything. I got a person who was not interested missed stuff out of the report and put inaccurate information in. Just try not to worry if this happens just remember you can appeal. Just remember that you actually have a right to a copy of the report which would help if you can pick it to bits. The appeal process is ask the DWP for a mandatory reconstruction first then if they decline tribunal. I won at tribunal as when I went I was fully prepared I had my box of tablets with me I had the atos report a copy of my medical records and letters from gp ms doctor and ms nurse. The tribunal where shocked at how well I was prepared. The atos report said I can walk perfectly but I get tired very easy and have to stop and start so I can rest and I use a four wheeled walker yet the report said I don’t use mobility AIDS. You never know you might be OK and get the correct decision in the first place however if you don’t all I can say is appeal appeal appeal. And remember if it don’t go your way and you win your appeal process they will back pay the money just don’t think its the end if it don’t go your way because you can take it further.


jman
1 year ago

Expect the assessor to lie about.

Your mobility
Concentration
Mental Health..

I broke apart after the assessment and had to cut myself off from everything for a while.

Expect to go to appeal, or Tribunal and please please.. GET HELP.. Don’t do it alone..

Good luck..

I’ve gone past Mandatory Reconsideration, and on to Tribunal now..


frankielideo
1 year ago

Thanks guys, it’s no longer atos and now capita, I’m in n.ireland and I’m one of the first to go through the assessment apparently, I appreciate the advice and I’m considering recording the appointment, I’m free said I should be ok as I have enough evidence


daniel2025
1 year ago

My assessor refused to look at my evidence and wrote a load of bull s***t in the report so it may not be as easy as your thinking. You have to remember the private companies are here to make cash that’s there only goal and the assessors are paid a extra commission based on how many people they get off the benefits the assessor admitted it is me when I asked her unfortunately that’s where her truth telling ended. My wife did all my forms for my appeal and talked to the people who we needed evidence from. She did a good job as well only there twenty minutes and they said based on the evidence and what we have seen it is clear your telling the truth. And the tribunal made a award and DWP didn’t contest it as they have thirty days to do so. Don’t go in there feeling confident and thinking its a slam dunk as they could refuse to look at your evidence like the assessor did with me. Be fully prepared to appeal to get what your entitled to. Also capita are not much better you would have had a better time with atos. I say this having been through a atos assessment I had to appeal. Capita is the company that the BBC employ to collect the TV license. Capita employ the inspectors who in the past have used questionable tactics one example my nan in her seventies don’t own a TV so it’s quite right she don’t have a TV license. The guy who visited refused to show her his id and just walked in was only there 5 minutes but it really frightened her me and my wife went round to see her she was shaking. I raised a complaint with there head office and no one has retuned since.


daniel2025
1 year ago

That should say admitted it to me that’s a typo


frankielideo
1 year ago

@jman , @daniel2025 , what did they ask you to do ate the assessments

@stumbler , thank you for the benifits and work address, it looks very useful i appreciate all the advice everyone has given me since i joined last year


daniel2025
1 year ago

Nothing much asked me to walk a few steps asked what my medication was then asked what I can and can not do. Then she decided to Cherry pick what meds to put down on the report. She missed 14 out of my 15 morning tablets she missed all my night meds and missed off a lot of information about my conditions and wrote down loads of inaccurate information. According to her I don’t have acid reflux. However I have acid reflux really bad so that’s wrong its not like she’s there to see what I eat. She tried to say in her report my ms is light and I can walk OK which is more lies. I used to live in a upstairs flat I fell down the stairs numerous times. The social landlord rushed though a bungalow for me in two and a half months. In this area there is thousands on the waiting lists for bungalows and they give them to who needs them most. If I was in as good a shape as the atos woman claimed I would be still in my flat. On top of that I have been treated with lemtrada so clearly my ms was really active as they don’t just give lemtrada to anyone its a costly drug so obviously if another drug would do the job they would prefer to use that. The assessor lied about me and I would not be surprised if they lie about you. I got my money sorted at tribunal the judge even told me to complain to atos and even described the atos report as fiction.


daniel2025
1 year ago

This link don’t make good reading http://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/capita-faces-fresh-calls-to-be-stripped-of-pip-contracts-after-documentary/

Make sure you appeal if things go wrong try not to stress you don’t want to bring on a relapse just keep in your head that if I lose I will appeal and end up getting a good amount of back pay. Just stay positive and look at this as worse case scenario.


noelie
1 year ago

I had mine last month, and find the scoring system rubbish, how can you separate the living part from the walking part, I have no idea, because in my case, I might be borderline on both but the combination makes my life hell.

I was assessed by an occupational therapist and she was nice and unfortunately for me, I was having an ok day so she didn’t see my “normal” walking, especially after resting in the waiting area for 30min, if I rest 30 min between each daily 10 min task, I’m fine but I’m sure you can understand the problem here . And although I was prepared, I still made the mistake to say what I can do (even though I don’t use/need aids as such, simple things are very hard to do, take much longer that it should and sucks up all my energy as I need to constantly concentrate to know what my arm/leg is doing)

Another example of my stupidity: she asked me what I enjoyed doing, and I answered with what I enjoy and CAN do (i.e. Drag myself to yoga once or twice a week, just to be reminded of how fast MS has destroyed my body in the year before lemtrada) rather than all the things I once enjoyed but can no longer do (step aerobics anyone?).

To keep sane, we have to see what we can still do, otherwise we would all be depressed (I just finished CBT because I certainly was) and we tend to forget the things we struggle with in order to keep going. But for PIP you have to go the other way, and tell them what you are trying not to think about day and night. I would suggest making a note of everything you find hard from now until your assessment, (example of my personal experience: holding a fork, doing buttons, turning the key to open the door…)

I thought I would get lower mobility (I limp my way through the flat and can’t go out without my scooter) but got lower daily living instead (the decision came back pretty quickly, 10 days maybe, but it can take up to 5 weeks). I got 2 points on one thing I can manage and 0 on another one that is bothering me much more on a daily basis. And I can’t face challenging the decision.

They ask you questions to verify / clarify what’s in your application I guess, and want to know how your condition affects you. No point stressing about it, just be honest with them and, more difficult: with yourself (just for the time of the assessment, then go back to denial 😊), as others have already said, prepare as much as you can.

Good luck for next Thursday.


frankielideo
1 year ago

@noelie thank you for that, I am trying to prepare as much as possible, I find out that I’m one of the first in n.ireland to go through the pip assesment apparently, so I will report back after the assessment on thurs


noelie
1 year ago

@frankielideo another thought: try to explain why you can’t do things. i.e. I can’t walk, I limp but assessor wanted me to explain HOW I limp, which throw me a bit in the heat of the moment. It’s only later when I had time to pay more attention and think about it that the answer become clear to me, but of course it was too late, the appointment had been over for some time.

Assessment is not the time to be brave.

and yes, please, let us know how it went. Take care


lilbird
1 year ago

Some advice that always stuck with me was given to someone I know by the citizens advice bureau. They said make sure you don’t make the common mistake of resting up so it’s easier for you to get through the assessment, you really need to have a busy, tiring few days in the run up so they see you at your worst. Sounds unappealing but makes a lot of sense once you’ve heard it.

I didn’t get an assessment for my PIP they just turned me down on the info in my application. I asked for them reassess the decision which they did & turned me down again so I took it to tribunal. Spent probably about half an hour total from arrival to leaving with a decision, during which we sat in the waiting room then the clerk came out & explained the procedure, we waited a few more minutes to be shown in. I sat in front of her panel & answered all their questions as best I could (quite scary but they were all really nice & put me at ease) they asked me to wait outside again while they considered their response & I was called back in pretty quickly to be told they had unanimously agreed in my favour. I was on quite a high on the way home & very glad I had appealed!


frankielideo
1 year ago

well had the assessment and I think it went well, it was a young nurse who knew about ms and what it does, she prompted me on everything thing, did a sight test and strength test, went through each question and asked me to say as much as possible, she even knew my specialists than asked me to stand on one foot, asked to squeeze her fingers, asked me to do a small squat as if I was going to sit down as if I decided to get back up, so say you need as much help as possible, she also told me they are specifically looking at ms sufferers as they don’t believe that some one with little symptoms and need little to no help should in any way be getting the same as an ms’er that needs constant help and she said there will be no home visit


Lizzy86
1 month ago

Hi all,

So I think I’m really behind on what I should have been expecting of the PIP assessment, I saw there had been problems from the start, from the multiple News headlines, but being myself,and just believing it would be fine, as I’m not lying about this condition and the ways it affects me, I was shocked as my assessment was with an administrator, and not a medical professional off any sort, Didn’t stop her doing a few odd tests though!
It felt like a bit of a wind up, push your legs against my hand and put your arms as high as you can, then the classic how far can you walk question, I still cant answer that one, because it depends!
Wish I was feeling braver that day and pointed out that M.S is a complicated condition, so its hard to apply distances like that!

Anybody had this kind of assessment? I had mine on Monday and it really had an effect on me, questions like these just make me think I’m repeating all the doctors appointments all over again, and then the, ‘do you ever think about harming yourself or have suicidal thoughts’ angle?

If I wasn’t its in my mind now ! Awful!!

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